**Subject: **Re: Fuzzy Logic

**From: **John Lee P. Holmes (*jlh2r@virginia.edu*)

**Date: **Mon Nov 20 2000 - 17:47:55 MET

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I recommend the work of Charles Ragin, a sociologist at Northwestern, who

applies boolean algebra and fuzzy set theory to inference in the social

sciences. His work, The Comparative Method, nicely discusses the different

ways discrete methods like Boolean and Fuzzy sets deal with inference in

contradistinction to statistics (in which he is quite well versed). His new

book, which I haven't read yet, Fuzzy-Set Social Science (published June 2000

- check http://www.bestbookbuys.com ), will doubtless answer your question.

But on the boolean stuff in brief he points out that discrete methods treat

cases as wholes whereas continuous variable methods like statistics

disaggregate cases into their variables before recombining. So I think here

(and this is I must caution my less erudite interpretation - I may

misunderstand) there is less of a degrees of freedom problem.

Does that make sense?

BTW I'm still hoping someone will answer my inquiry regarding whether there

is fuzzy logic plug-in or template for Excel or other spreadsheets available?

Cheers,

John Lee Holmes

Ph.D. Candidate, Department of Government and Foreign Affairs

Research Analyst, Center for Survey Research

University of Virginia

"Mark A. Baldridge" wrote:

*> I am still not all that familiar with FL, but in statistics there is a
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*> fairly formal recognition of degrees of freedom. If you have 10 pieces of
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*> information, and 10 degrees of freedom, and you calculate a mean, the
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*> result is a mean plus a data set with only 9 degrees of freedom. You
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*> cannot make more information than you started with. If you subsequently
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*> calculate a standard deviation, your sample then only has 8 degrees of
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*> freedom, as you now also have a mean and a standard deviation calculated
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*> from the sample set.
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*>
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*> In FL, I am less sure about the knowledge of the data when you defuzzify
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*> the data, and conclude an answer. Do we now think we have more
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*> information than we had before, since the fuzziness is gone?
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*>
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*> Martin Sewell wrote:
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*>
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*> > "Fuzzy logic is nothing more than a reformulation of statistical
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*> > inference and probability theory. No solution can be found that could
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*> > not be achieved at least as effectively using probability and
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*> > statistics."
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*> >
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*> > Can anyone refute this?
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