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Highlighted Topic: "Disney Question"
Hi Everyone!

Why doesn't Disney have any BLACK Princess Characters?

As many of you know, in my free time I like to help coach younger girls for beauty pageants since I used to compete. And this morning I was presented with a  question from one of my clients that really made me think.

I was working with a child who is 10 years old and her little sister who is about 7 years old. The girls' mother came to me to put together a dance to Christinia Augilera's song Genie in a Bottle and the 10 year old wanted to kind of bellydance to the song. That wasn't bad.

The little girl came to me with wide eyes and asked me if I'd design a genie outfit for her--because I sketch from time to time--and I said sure. I asked the girl if she had any colors she liked and she told me, "I want to look like Princess Jazmine from Alladin!"

And the 7 year old, who was watching jumped up and hollered, "I like her cause she's Black like me!  Smiley ) (The girls are Black)

And that kind stuck out for me as the girl's mother said very nicely that Jazmine was not Black, but Middle Easter, Arabian.

It broke my heart when the 10 year old asked why there wasn't a Black princess and we couldn't answer her. Her little face was drooping.  Undecided

Are there any Black Princesses or characters that I'm over looking? Because I've seen several characters who were women of color--Jazmine, Mulan, etc, but never a Black one.

Please answer everyone and thank you!

Posted by: apollonia1986 at 03/21/09 at 12:11:44. There are 21 responses

Highlighted Topic: "Got to get the milk, eggs and bread!"
A winter storm is descending upon us, the call is for 4-8 inches in the Philadelphia area. This is sending people
in a panic and they are franticly rushing to the grocery store for milk, eggs, bread and let's not forget bottled
water. The news interviewed one woman, whose cart was filled with gallons of milk and water, why she was
buying so much and what about other customers who might want these items as well. Her response, "Forget
them, I was here first and I want to be prepared." Prepared for what, a nuclear disaster? It will be close to 50
degrees by Thursday and the whopping 4 inches will be gone. The snow will be gone before the milk goes bad.


I ask, why these particular items? Why do people feel a need to stock up before a storm? I am talking about city folk,
people who know the stores will be open the following day. The biggest storm in Philadelphia history, 32 inches, shut
down area stores for 2 days, hardly a need to stockpile anything yet people will still rush to the stores for milk, eggs and
bread. I just don't get it.

Posted by: loki 13 at 03/01/09 at 12:43:40. There are 23 responses

Highlighted Topic: "1979-80"
It's that age old debate again.  Is it a 70s song or is it an 80s song ? 


Often in discussions of 1980 hit songs, the classic 'Wondering Where the Lions Are' by Bruce Cockburn comes to mind (it debuted in the US chart in March of 1980, peaking at #21 in June), but what you might not know is that in Canada, that song first charted in August of 1979, becoming a Top 40 hit by November (It's final chart appearance in Canada was January 12, 1980 which was the first chart of the 80s)

♦ Did you know that in the UK, 'Crazy Little Thing Called Love' by Queen peaked at #2 in November of 1979 ?

♦ In the US/Canada, 'Tired of Toein' the Line' by Rocky Burnette was a BIG hit in 1980.  Though it never made the Top 40 in the UK, it peaked at UK #58 in November of 1979 (I didn't know it was a 70s song either)

♦ 'Video Killed the Radio Star' by The Buggles peaked in the Top 40 for the US/Canada in 1980 and was the first video played on MTV in 1981.  The fact remains though that in the UK, it reached #1 in September of 1979.  For England, it wasn't an 80s hit.  For North America, it was more than anything an 80s hit








Posted by: whistledog at 02/01/09 at 12:26:39. There are 39 responses

Highlighted Topic: "Am I My Sisters/Brothers Keeper"

The question is, what, in the society we have built for ourselves, is our duty, and what is the duty of our government in insuring that the most vulnerable are taken care of, and not exploited. 

What brought this up was a discussion about the role of social security and retirement. I brought up the scenario of the stay at home mother.  The stay-at-home mother is given an almost holy reverence, but the fact is she is in an extremely precarious position.  One the depends on the understanding, respect, and largesse of the husband(or partner).  Her retirement depends on her spouses earnings.  Her standard of living and savings depend on her spouse allowing her access to his pay. Although many think this is a given, it is not.  When a spouse gets his/her pay there is not a legal requirement for him/her to hand over any of it to his/her spouse, unless they have separated and have a support order in place.  I don't believe I have heard of support orders being issued to persons who are married and living together.

So if social security were to be dismantled, what would happen to the stay at home mother, who did all the right things, raised her child/children, maybe even seen one or more die in a war,  kept a good home, but woke to find herself destitute because as valued as she has been led to believe she is, now that she needs the support of society, she finds that her contribution doesn't count.

Posted by: Danoota&Me at 01/18/09 at 7:27:28. There are 27 responses

Highlighted Topic: "Most toxic movie genre"
I recently went on a spree of watching all those twisted horror movies banned in country after country, such as "Texas Chain Saw Massacre," "I Spit on Your Grave," "Cannibal Holocaust," and "Cannibal Ferox."

I concluded these films are twisted and gross--but not bad for you.  Provided you can distinguish between campy cinema gore and reality, you're mind is in no danger.  For instance, when the savages cut the explorer's penis off in "Cannibal Holocaust," the depiction was horrifying, but I knew it was just a movie.

What is the real creeping terror of cinema?  Romantic comedies.  That's right, Hugh Grant is the problem, not Alfred Hitchcock. 

A Heriot Watt University study on the subject recently affirmed my own longstanding frustration with the "rom-com" genre. 

The difference is Leatherface is a hideous subhuman freak in a cheap nightmare flick.  Nobody would aspire to seek out any such thing in real life.  Yet TCSM is pushed underground and called bad for society.

On the other hand, Sam Baldwin and Annie Reed ("Sleepless in Seattle") are held up as a desirable ideal giving rise to notions of how the world of romance should be populated with beautiful rich people with problems easily solved in 90 minutes. 

I would not want my hypothetical 13-year-old to see a sadistic splatterfest such as "I Spit on Your Grave" because kids that age are too impressionable to appropriately process scenes of rape and murder.  However, I think a boatload full of "Notting Hill" and "You've Got Mail" might give the same teenager a candyass rose-colored-glasses ideal of love and relationships.  It all should be sweet and sponaneous with no real work involved and even the tears are made of sugar water.  The latter might be more digestable than the former, but in the end more insidiously poisonous. 

In my dating experiences, I found too many women whose ideas of how relationships work were shaped by Hollywood dreams.  They didn't know how to maintain an interpersonal homeostasis after the infatuation faded.  I suspect women are more vulnerable to the cornball ideals the romantic comedies represent (not to mention the cynical sewage of "Sex and the City"), but this is not to suggest men are any less vulnerable to pop culture influences.

Posted by: MaxwellSmart at 12/23/08 at 11:48:02. There are 61 responses

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